The rest of what Simmons writes is fine. Probably good, even. I just don't like it. I have friends who love him, friends who don't even like the teams he likes, friends who hate the teams he likes, friends who know good writing when they see it and continually recommend him to me. But it doesn't matter. Maybe it's some childish reaction to the fact that everyone loves him. Whatever it is, something about him rubs me the wrong way.
Another thing is Simmons loves basketball and I don't. In fact, I actively dislike basketball. And now Simmons has come out with a 70,000 page book on basketball. That's my Guantanamo right there.*
*That should be an ad campaign.
Man sitting in chair: Locked in an elevator with Ann Coulter? That's my Guantanamo.
Woman on park bench: On a job interview with no maxipads and my period comes... that's my Guantanamo.
Man in airline seat: These fucking peanuts are my Guantanamo. Fuck these fucking peanuts! [is restrained by attendants]
Man: Being in a horrifically insensitive ad campaign for nothing... that's my Guantanamo.
Anyway...
Seventy bizillion pages about basketball is bad enough, but sprinkle them with hilarious anecdotes about celebrities, and two page long tortured analogies about how Mad Men is like Charles Oakley's cock, but in a good way. God fucking save me from that shit. Please.
But this poooost isn't about all that. It's really about two interviews Simmons did recently. The first was on the Colbert Report, and the second was with Will Leitch of New York Magazine (it's a three part interview). The interviews touched on different topics, but there was a single topic common to both of them: basketball is better than baseball.
Three words on that: No. Fucking. Way.
But that's obviously just my opinion and some really fucking stupid people who spend most of their time trying to actually lick their own assholes may disagree with me. And that's OK.
Because Simmons cited the same opinions and thoughts in both interviews, I thought it would be interesting to take a look at why he thinks basketball is better than baseball. So, here are a few of the reasons he gave, with my completely unfair commentary below.
Because the interview on the Colbert Report was so short and the NY Magazine interview covers the same material plus much more I'll just follow and comment on that. Baseball isn't mentioned at all in part one of the NY Magazine interview, but it is mentioned prominently in part two and is a side note in part three.
In part three, during an answer to a question about how he came to love soccer, Simmons says,
"In the late-seventies, everyone loved boxing, horse racing, and tennis; now those are niche sports. In the late-seventies, the NBA was struggling and baseball was thriving; now it's the reverse to some degree."
I'd dispute that tennis is a niche sport. Like soccer, it's huge outside of the US and the US Open draws big ratings and big crowds. But the real crux of this statement is that baseball isn't thriving. In 2008, 78.6 million people attended major league baseball games. In 2007 attendance was 79.5 million and this year, in 2009, 73.4 million people attended games. Thems big ol' numbers.
In comparison, the NBA drew 42.8 million people during their 2008-2009 season or 54.5% of baseball's attendance. If you divide the NBA's total attendance for their 08-09 season by 82 games, you get 522,000 people attend per game, that is, the total attendance for all the Game 1s around the league.
Of course, this isn't a completely fair comparison.
First of all, baseball teams play 162 games a season while basketball plays 82. I'm guessing this is primarily due to the strain an NBA game places on a person. Playing 162 NBA games plus the playoffs just isn't a semi-reasonable thing to ask a person to do. So you can't dock the NBA for playing a shorter season.
The second problem with that comparison is baseball parks hold about twice the number of people that basketball stadiums do. But don't you think if the NBA could fill 40,000 seats for each game they'd do it? If more people wanted to come and see pro basketball games they'd build bigger stadiums to accommodate that, so it's fair to use that in a conversation about basketball's popularity.
So, to even out the numbers I divided baseball's attendance by 162 (to get the per-game number like the NBA above) and then multiplied it by 82 (the length of the NBA season) to get a similarly scaled number. If you use baseball's 2009 attendance, you get 37.2 million, or slightly lower than the NBA's total attendance. So, on a per game basis, the sports are in the same ball park.
What does this prove? It sort of shows that pro baseball is about as popular as pro basketball on a weighted per game basis. So when Simmons says that baseball is struggling and basketball is thriving, if you accept attendance as a short-hand for popularity (and there can be a very fair argument that it isn't) then you can see that the two sports are just about equally popular.
Part two of the New York Magazine piece is where the meat of this argument is stated. His answer is (predictably) very long, so I'm going to cut in when I see fit.
Will Leitch: I'd be curious what your thoughts are on the league's current state overall. You seem up on Stern, but one can definitely argue that basketball is a clear-cut third behind football and baseball in terms of national popularity. What is it about the game that's not appealing to people? You have as much access to the collective sports-fan consciousness of our country, with all the mail you get — you must know that readers don't care as much about the NBA. Can that be fixed? Or should anyone even try? Or is anything even broken?
Bill Simmons: See, I feel like the NBA is doing better than baseball and the ratings would certainly back that up. The last three World Series were the lowest rated ever. Baseball's audience gets older each year, and they aren't replacing it with younger fans, whereas that's the NBA's wheelhouse right now. The NBA is grabbing those kids between YouTube, video games, sneakers, and everything else. So that's one problem.
I'm not sure ratings are a perfect proxy for popularity. The ratings depend on many things, such as the specific match up. For example, take me. Please! (ha!) If this year's World Series was between the Dodgers and the Yankees, I wouldn't be watching it, and I'm a huge massive, over the top baseball fan.
But, Simmons brought up ratings, so lets talk ratings. The only source that I know for ratings info is Wikipedia, so take these numbers what whatever sized grain of salt you feel is appropriate.
Since 2000, here are the ratings for the NBA Finals:
NBC 2000 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Indiana Pacers 2 11.6
NBC 2001 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Philadelphia 76ers 1 12.1
NBC 2002 Los Angeles Lakers 4, New Jersey Nets 0 10.2
ABC 2003 San Antonio Spurs 4, New Jersey Nets 2 6.5
ABC 2004 Detroit Pistons 4, Los Angeles Lakers 1 11.5
ABC 2005 San Antonio Spurs 4, Detroit Pistons 3 8.2
ABC 2006 Miami Heat 4, Dallas Mavericks 2 8.5
ABC 2007 San Antonio Spurs 4, Cleveland Cavaliers 0 6.2
ABC 2008 Boston Celtics 4, Los Angeles Lakers 2 9.3
ABC 2009 Los Angeles Lakers 4, Orlando Magic 1 8.4
And here are ratings for the World Series:
2000 FOX (Mets/Yankees) 12.4
2001 FOX (Diamondbacks/Yankees) 15.7
2002 FOX (Angels/Giants) 11.9
2003 FOX (Marlins/Yankees) 13.9
2004 FOX (Red Sox/Cardinals) 15.8
2005 FOX (White Sox/Astros) 11.1
2006 FOX (Cardinals/Tigers) 10.1
2007 FOX (Red Sox/Rockies) 10.6
2008 FOX (Phillies/Rays) 8.4
The average rating for the NBA Finals from 2000 through 2009 is 9.25. The average rating for the World Series from 2000 through 2009 is 12.21. I can't speak to Simmons claim that the NBA audiences are getting younger while Baseball's is getting older, but it definitely seems like Baseball is a bigger draw on TV than basketball, or at least the World Series is a bigger draw than the NBA finals.
While I can't speak to those specifics, I can say that FOX pays $417 million to televise the baseball playoffs and selected regular season games. NBC pays the NBA "about $400 million" or essentially the same amount, so it's unlikely that one reaches a desirable target demographic that the other does not.
I also think baseball has a real credibility issue with sports fans in terms of trust (because of the steroids thing, which has tainted the past two decades, basically), and the time of the games (interminable); basketball doesn't have either of those issues (although it does have the lousy ref issue). The union runs baseball; Stern runs basketball. Big difference.
Neither sport is immune to credibility problems, but if you asked me which scandal threatened the integrity of the game more the refs accepting bribes or the players using steroids, I'd say bribes every time.
Baseball has its own issues with on field officiating though, so I won't make the claim that one is better than the other in this respect, assuming that the bribing of officials in the NBA has stopped.
I've been over and over and over the steroids issue here, but essentially I believe it's been blown way out of proportion. Did it affect the game? It probably did. Do we really know how or in what way it affected the game? No, we have no idea. I don't believe it tainted the sport over the past two decades either.
The real problem with this argument though is that players in basketball are using steroids too. And in football, and hockey as well. If there is an advantage to be gained by using then the players will try to gain that edge. I don't know what the NBA's drug use policy is, but I can't imagine it's more strenuous than Baseball's. In fact, I've heard from numerous media that Baseball now has the best drug testing program in pro sports, for what ever that is worth. To say baseball is tainted and while completely ignoring the usage that is almost surely going on in every other pro sport including basketball is just willful ignorance.
And baseball has turned into a small-market/big-market sport — the NBA is protected from that happening to some degree because of its draft and salary cap.
This is an old and easily shot down argument. Just look at who has participated in the World Series in this decade. Here's the list:
Yankees (x4), Red Sox (x2) Phillies (x2), Cardinals (x2), Diamondbacks, Angels, Giants, Marlins, White Sox, Astros, Tigers, Rockies, Rays, Mets
The Yankees have been to the series four times. No other team has been more than twice, and 14 of the 30 teams, or just about half of all the baseball teams in the league, have made the series in the past nine years.
Now basketball:
Los Angeles Lakers (x6), San Antonio Spurs (x3), Detroit Pistons (x2), New Jersey Nets (x2), Philadelphia 76ers, Indiana Pacers, Miami Heat, Dallas Mavericks, Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic
The Lakers have been to the finals six times with the Spurs at three times. Overall, eleven teams have participated in the Finals, three less than have participated in the World Series over the same time period.
Verdict: WRONG
The biggest thing in the NBA's favor: Don't they have ten times as many marketable players? Name five baseball players under 30 that could sell a shoe or be the focal point of a commercial. Basketball has, like, fifteen of those guys. And LeBron and Kobe are bigger than any baseball player, by far, nobody comes close. There's no star power in baseball anymore. It's pretty much gone.
Honestly, who gives a shit about marketability? How is that any kind of proxy for popularity? I can name fifteen baseball players under thirty, but here's the thing: nobody wears baseball spikes around the mall. You can put on a pair of Air Jordans and head out to the park, but if you try that with your Hanley Ramirez spikes you're going to fuck up your hardwood floor.
This is the stupidest argument for the NBA I've heard. LeBron and Kobe might be bigger than baseball stars. Are they bigger than Derek Jeter? Maybe. Honestly, how do you quantify that? And, an even better question, who really gives a shit?
But asserting that star power is out of baseball is just straight horseshit. Jeter, A-Rod, Manny, these players go by one name or nickname because, like Kobe and LeBron, people know who they are. That's star power.
I think baseball is in more trouble than people realize. Part of the reason attendance remained relatively strong is because teams keep opening new stadiums and coming up with these "buy four tickets for the price of one and get four free hot dogs" deals. Well, what happens in 2016 after the new stadium rush has worn off? That's what I want to see. And again, the length of the games is interminable. For us, we're used to it. No 12-year-old kid wants to spend four hours watching a baseball game.
New stadiums do affect attendance, but that's not a deciding factor by any means. New stadiums usually show a spike in attendance the first season, but after that people stop going to see the stadium and attendance returns to previous levels. New stadiums haven't artificially spiked Baseball's attendance. That simply isn't true.
As for offering deals, basketball teams offer deals too. So do hockey teams. It's an effective way to bring people into the park, show them that it's an enjoyable experience and they should come back again (and buy tickets at full price).
As to the length of the games, an average baseball game is 2 hours and 54 minutes long while the average basketball game is 2 hours and 30 minutes, a difference of 24 minutes. The average NFL game lasts over 3 hours, but nobody talks about shortening that. Again, it's a bullshit argument. Of course people want to watch 3 hour baseball games. They want to watch 4 hour baseball games too. The ratings prove that. So does the attendance.
For my money, there's nothing more interminable than the end of a basketball game. Foul (stand around while someone shoots two free throws), foul (stand around while someone shoots two free throws), foul (stand around while someone shoots two free throws), foul (stand around while someone shoots two free throws), foul (stand around while someone shoots two free throws), foul foul foul foul... Oh my God. I'd almost rather read a Bill Simmons column.
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